Aldershot 2 County 2
Plus! Chicken and pasta for breakfast, portaloos in the rain, and dodgy parking spaces… it’s Aldershot away!
Tuesday 5 December 2023
NEXT HOME GAME: Sutton – Saturday 16 December, 3pm
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Dear County fans, Stopfordians, and any Aldershot supporters joining us today, a very warm welcome to your Tuesday edition of The Scarf My Father Wore.
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Aldershot (for 3 minutes) and County (for 21) were both into round three of the FA Cup at the weekend but neither side could hold on to their lead which means we’ll have to do it all over again next week for the chance to have a crack at Championship outfit West Bromwich Albion. Oliver Brookland and Simon Holt take a look back at Sunday’s four-goal encounter at the Recreation Ground.
It’s a bumper edition of The Scarf My Father Wore for you to enjoy today, as we’re also joined by Alex Lipniski, Will Howells and Ed Powell, sharing their Aldershot adventures with us.
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Des Junior
✍️ Sunday’s match in one word
Oliver – Compelling.
Simon – Disjointed.
🤔 Pre-match thoughts
Oliver – I was expecting it to be a tough one, but was more than confident that we could hold our own given our showing in the last round and our recent run of form in the league. The prospect of a big tie in the third round (a stage we haven’t reached in 11 years) only added to the nerves.
Simon – I know quite a bit about Aldershot as a close mate supports them. I knew they're having a good season and are doing well in the National League. I was also aware that they’re really good going forward but pretty dodgy at the back. I also thought we might not play our usual first XI because of injuries, and a busy Christmas period coming up. So I thought it would be a tough game but we'd have too much for them in the end – I predicted them to score first but us to win 3-1.
🧐 Post-match thoughts
Oliver – That was one of the best cup ties we’ve seen at the Recreation Ground in a very, very long time, on and off the pitch. Ideally, I wanted to avoid a draw as a midweek trip to Edgeley Park will be very tough. However, it would have been devastating to have lost that late on, and I think a draw is more than a fair result. Given what we achieved away at Swindon in round one, I don’t think this tie is done yet.
Simon – They were better than I thought they would be and we were disappointing for large spells. Thought a draw was about fair, but at the time felt a bit fortunate to go in 1-1 at half-time and then 2-2 in the end. They were indeed good going forward and got through our midfield too easily, where I felt we were getting joy putting crosses into the box but didn't do it frequently enough, all too often checking back inside and trying to play too intricately. Would have liked to see us play a bit more directly because I think with our pace we could really have caused them problems. We've now a replay coming up – if we play like we can then we should beat them, but if we don't show more dynamism than Sunday it's going to be difficult to get through, because they're a decent outfit. It felt like a game between two decent National League teams, which isn't really good enough from our perspective given the standards we've set this season.
🔴 Verdict on Aldershot
Oliver – I thought we were excellent, and I think some of our players and fans will maybe be a bit disappointed to only come away with a draw. We rose to the challenge extremely well, but were perhaps caught out with some defensive mishaps which allowed County to take control for a period. As mentioned above though, it would’ve been extremely cruel on us to have left with nothing, so I’m happy to take the draw and subsequent trip to EP next week.
Simon – I thought they played well. We had more quality on the ball, but they were organised and you can tell their side are used to playing with one another, which wasn't the case for us because of all the changes we made. They're a good, solid National League outfit and I know the Shots fans are enjoying watching them this season after a few seasons of struggle – and I can see why. They're a hard-working team without many stars who would be easy to get behind as a supporter.
🟢 Verdict on County
Oliver – I think County played well, and showed glimpses of why they are where they are in League Two. They will probably think they had enough chances to walk away as winners on the day, and probably should have taken advantage after going 2-1 up, but I think the draw is about right.
Simon – Disappointing. We had lots of possession but didn't do a whole lot with it. I thought Powell looked casual once again, and Cotterill isn't good enough – gave the ball away far too often. I love Paddy but he's showing his age now. He’s been a wonderful player for us but I'm thinking perhaps this is his final season with us. I would have liked us to get down the sides more as I thought their defence looked dodgy on crosses, but their defenders did a good job of blocking the space off. Finally, taking Akil Wright off was the correct decision – he was going to get sent off otherwise – but I thought Cotterill was a strange choice to bring on. I would have preferred Cody Johnson if DC wanted to give Croasdale a rest. If Wright isn't up to playing defensive midfield at Football League level (which I don't think he is – though he's great in defence) then recruiting an alternative to Croasdale in January would be a top priority for me. But, as DC says, if you're not playing well and can't win, then don't lose, and we did that. So we live to fight another day, and hopefully we can get the job done at EP in the replay.
🔫 Top Shot
Oliver – Little debate on this one – Josh Stokes. We will be very, very lucky to keep him through January, even more so following this one. Expect to see him much further up the pyramid soon.
Simon – I thought Josh Stokes was really good. Intelligent player whose hold-up play was suprisingly good given he's not that tall. He has a good all-round game and I thought everything good Shots did involved him.
🎩 Top Hatter
Oliver – Can’t really single one out I’m afraid, but I’ll give Neill Byrne credit for that goal (even if our defenders should’ve done a better job at closing him down first).
Simon – Nobody had an outstanding game, but Ethan Pye has been really solid this season since coming into the team, and did well again today. It's great to see how smoothly he's settled into the team.
👂 Atmosphere
Oliver – The East Bank can be a special place when filled like it was on Sunday, and is an enormous asset to us as a fanbase. The atmosphere was outstanding all the way through to kick-off and for the opening period of the first half. It became slightly restrained as County came into the game, but certainly picked up again in the closing stages. I really hope that the East Bank does not become a victim of any proposed ground redevelopments.
Simon – I thought it was excellent. I really like that they divide the East Bank, the big terrace behind the goal, in two, so home and away fans have half each and are near one another. The barrel roof makes it really easy to create noise in there. I'm not always a fan of drumming at football (it really depends on the ability of the drummer!) but it worked really well on Sunday; both County and Shots had drummers and it was like they were competing with one another, which led to some great back and forth between the fans. Two proper sets of fans in great voice. The atmosphere was the best part of the afternoon for me! It was also good to watch the draw for the third round in The Crimea before the game, full of both sets of fans. It was tribal in the best sense of the word – lots of chat and piss taking without it ever looking like it was going to turn nasty or anything.
🙏 Hopes for the rest of the season
Oliver – I don’t want to get too carried away, but this is comfortably one of the best Aldershot squads we’ve seen in a long time. A play-off finish would’ve been seen as a bonus at the start of the season, but I firmly believe it’s well within our reach if we carry on the way we have been. From there, it’s anyone’s guess!
Simon – In the cup, hoping we can get through the replay and then give West Brom a good game in the next round. I live in Oxford so it would be a local-ish game for me, and I've never been to The Hawthorns, so I'm not too disappointed with the draw even though it's not one of the really big boys. More generally, it's got to be about promotion, hasn't it? We're top at the moment so obviously you want to look at winning the league, but after last season I'd just be happy to get automatic, however that looks. I think the business we do in January will really shape our season – we don't quite have the strength in depth we need to get over the line given all the injuries we have at the moment, so another striker (especially if Barry isn't coming back), a defensive midfielder to cover Croasdale, and left-sided cover (remembering we'll lose Touray to the African Nations Cup) would be my priorities. We also need to see what happens with Bailey; whilst he seems out of favour at Salford (and him being allowed to play in the cup is a good sign?), you'd think they might want him back given they had zero subs they could use on Tuesday. So a lot can change in the next few weeks, but promotion is the main hope this season for everyone, I think.
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2.11pm: 1-0 down. Huge deflection.
2.14pm: Great goal! 1-1. Ash Williams-esque from Byrne.
2.36pm: Wright taken off for Cotterill. To be fair he’s had a dire game so far.
2.37pm: Went out with the family for Sunday lunch in Macclesfield. Who was on the next table to me? None other than Mark Hughes.
2.38pm: Did he try and trip you up?
2.39pm: He never got near me.
3.08pm: Get in! Madden 2-1. DC’s half-time chat obviously worked.
3.29pm: Bollocks. 2-2. We were actually looking a lot better this half as well.
4.02pm: An FA Cup replay at EP under the lights. Bring it on.
4.05pm: On the plus side, that's one more County home game before Christmas. On the downside, that's one more County home game before Christmas.
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Chicken and pasta for breakfast, portaloos in the rain, and dodgy parking spaces… it’s Aldershot away!
🎶 “We go to all the away matches, by bus, by train, by car….. And we get so pissed before the game, we don’t know where we are!” 🎶
A lyric from a classic County song gave Des Junior a little bit of inspiration for this regular feature – why have one away day review when you can have three! So when County are playing away from home (well, unless it’s like Plymouth on a Tuesday night), The Scarf My Father Wore will be sending three intrepid reporters out into the unknown to share their tales from motorways and train stations across the country.
Alex Lipniski endured a Flixbus from Nottingham on Sunday to watch County in the cup, whilst our train and car reports come from a couple of our southern Hatters – Will Howells and Ed Powell.
⏰ Up
Alex – 5.30am.
Will – Relatively local one for me is Aldershot, so had a nice gentle start to the day of about half nine. Not so great when I didn’t get home from work until gone midnight the night before though!
Ed – 7am (not by choice).
🍳 Breakfast
Alex – I’ve got quite an interesting answer to this question. I merged it with dinner the night before. Well, I say the night before, it was just after midnight so technically my breakfast was chicken and pasta with tomato sauce, cheese and garlic bread.
Will – Quaker Oats Golden Syrup porridge. I’ve developed quite the taste for it in my 30s.
Ed – Shreddies and maple syrup.
⬅️ Before
Alex – I can explain that odd choice of breakfast in response to this question. Obviously as I was going to get around five hours of sleep, I was worried about the possibility of oversleeping and not having time to eat (though I did set six alarms as I knew I would be shattered). The irony behind this was that I actually woke up before the alarms because I was so concerned about waking up too late. I looked at my phone in bed for maybe ten minutes before jumping into the shower and cleaning my teeth and so on. I was dressed and ready before 6am, leaving my house for a 30-minute walk in the snow past Trent Bridge Cricket Ground, the City Ground and Meadow Lane, to the coach stop in Nottingham (which is where I’m based when I’m not in Stockport).
Will – Not much. Got up, ate, out the door really.
Ed – Fed and played with the kids while the missus had a lie-in.
👕 Clobber
Alex – The outfit of choice was my County 2021-22 champions shirt with a jumper on top of that and a thick black coat on top of that. A pair of blue jeans with white trainers and a black hat to add on top of that. Finally, the most important component for any County game that I’ve been taking for over ten years: the scarf.
Will – I did my usual “not wanting to make it obvious I’m a County fan for a south-east game” so jeans and a hoodie (I like to be able to melt away into the crowd after games when I have to share routes with home fans). I had my The Scarf Bergara Wore "Connelly Gannon Flynn & Todd" T-shirt underneath. Not wanting to wear obvious County gear did leave me without a waterproof which proved a mistake.
Ed – Warm stuff and my mum’s blue and white scarf from the 2008 play-off final which I stole from her (don’t tell her).
🛫 Outbound
Alex – Quite a bizarre and abnormal journey. Train strikes around the East Midlands meant the cost of a ticket to London was over £100, so I chose to travel on Flixbus, departing Nottingham at 6.50am and arriving at London Victoria bus station at 9:50am. It was a really smooth journey actually and the three hours flew by, helped by the fact that I slept for the first hour. After a 5-10 minute walk to London Victoria train station, I hopped on the Brighton train, getting off at Clapham Junction, where I bumped into some Londoners who enquired about my scarf. “Chelsea?” one of them asked. “Stockport County” was my proud response. From there I went to Walton-on-Thames to meet a friend who’s gradually being converted to a Surrey Hatter.
Will – Really straightforward. One train from Walton-on-Thames to Woking and another from Woking to Aldershot. I was surprised to encounter a County fan getting off the train at Walton who told me his mate was giving him a lift from the station. Which makes me wonder if I’m not the only County fan in this town… Journey back was less good, but we’ll get to that in a minute.
Ed – Rainy.
🍺 Pre-match
Alex – My friend showed me around Walton-on-Thames, Hersham and Weybridge (I’ve never seen so many private roads in my life in those three places) for a bit of sightseeing before heading to The Heart Shopping Centre back in Walton, which despite being a lot smaller than Merseyway, really put it to shame. It was fresh, it was modern, and it was busy. After grabbing a Subway for the car we headed to Aldershot. What normally takes 40 minutes took an hour due to roadworks on the A3, although because of the delays we found out that our possible third round opponents were West Brom, adding a little more pressure to the fixture. Parking in Aldershot was a nightmare. The two closest car parks to the ground were full and with only 30 minutes to kick-off, a little bit of panic ensued. However, we cheekily parked at Lidl ten minutes from the ground with no payment needed as it was a Sunday and Lidl closed at 4pm. From there we walked to the ground and got in around 1.50pm, as we walked to the wrong stand initially.
Will – Couple of beers in The Crimea as has become the standard for trips to Aldershot. Good to see some familiar faces in there and catch up with one or two I’ve not seen for a while.
Ed – Took a tour of Aldershot looking for somewhere to park.
🏙 Destination
Alex – Without trying to be too harsh I can’t say I was impressed by the town. Whilst I always find it pleasing to see local businesses thrive on high streets, they probably needed a lick of paint as did the rest of the town. Despite that, I felt safe enough to walk down the road with my County scarf on. There have been places where I’ve taken my scarf off and put it in my pocket to not feel intimidated. Aldershot was easy to get in and out of, and unlike Stockport, not every traffic light appeared to be on red.
Will – I’ve been there quite a bit down the years (even did some TV work for Sky years ago on an old part of the army base) and it’s pretty much as you’d expect. A fairly run-down squaddie town. There are worse places but there are also far better.
Ed – Typical London satellite town, nothing special.
🏟 Visitors
Alex – A unique away end is how I would describe it. Walking past the home end it seemed as if one of the stands had been added on to an older part of the ground which looked derelict as it stood by the trainline. That probably set my expectations which weren’t altered. We had to walk up a hill and then down a hill to access the away end which, for a former Football League ground, I was rather taken aback by. I only noted two turnstiles though there may have been another two which weren’t open. They were covered in cobwebs. Once through the turnstiles you found yourself in the back yard of the away end which is the best way I can describe it. I’m trying to compare it to another ground I’ve been to and despite having been to around 45 different grounds in this country, I’m struggling. The toilets (portaloos) made me reminiscent of Hyde United away in the Conference as the Hatters ran out 1-0 winners many, many moons ago. There was a van in this back yard which sold food, though I can’t say I bought any so couldn’t comment on the prices. I did note that when it started raining, there was no cover for any hungry fans. To the right of the van and the left of the portaloos was the entrance to the away end. “Old school” is how I would describe it. A standing area with a couple of barriers as you went down. There was also access to a standing area running alongside their equivalent of the Pop Side and then a little stand where the cameras were set up. A couple of County fans occupied those seats.
Will – I quite like the terrace away fans share with home fans at Aldershot, and am sad to read that their current plans are to demolish it as part of a ground redevelopment. It’s pretty easy to make some noise under the roof and the pillars aren’t too intrusive. I still prefer a side view though and definitely missed some of what was going on at the other end. The little food wagon selling burgers, hot dogs and chips seemed to be doing a decent trade and I did enjoy my chips. Didn’t like the look of the burgers that were piled up though. The toilets are grim. A row of portaloos out in the rain; to think I’ve seen away fans complain about the facilities at EP this season.
Ed – A covered standing terrace next to rowdy home fans = a good atmosphere. Portaloos and an overpriced burger van out back. FC United could learn something from them.
1️⃣ First
Alex – I helped create a bit of atmosphere shall we say. I stood just behind the contingent making the County noise in the upper right corner of the away end.
Will – Watched the game, sang some songs, yelled at the officials, checked Yellowboard. The usual.
Ed – Turned up five minutes late after legging it from a dodgy parking space at the station and almost dying of a heart attack halfway up that bloody hill. Got in just in time to see them score followed by Elon Byrne’s space rocket. Spent the rest of the half waiting for Akil Wright’s second yellow and commenting on Yellowboard about Nick Powell.
🍿 Interval
Alex – Whenever me or my dad aren’t at the game, we ring one another at half-time to let the other know how we’re playing. In this case it was my turn to ring him and despite the poor signal (even in the back yard) I managed to convey to him that the first-half action was perhaps underwhelming on our part and that Byrne’s goal was an absolute belter. Other than that, I checked the other scores, in particular Eastleigh and Reading, before taking my position up back in the stand.
Will – Chatted with those around me and had a look at scores in the other games.
Ed – Waited in the rain to buy some chips that I then drowned in vinegar and burger sauce. Updated my dad on the score (parents are visiting Vienna, lucky bastards).
2️⃣ Second
Alex – It was pretty similar to the first half. Cheered the boys on and got slightly frustrated that a possible tie against West Brom wasn’t going to be secured today.
Will – The same as the first, only with less checking of Yellowboard. We were kicking to the other end second half so it was harder to see how our attacks were building.
Ed – Mostly groaned.
🟢 Us
Alex – The roof didn’t allow for that much noise to carry with a couple of holes in it. The atmosphere was difficult in the away end. Whilst I am one for making some noise, I felt we struggled slightly. The noise where I was located was primarily coming from the top right of the away end and whilst it did travel well, there weren’t enough willing people to bring about that classic County atmosphere, though it did change with a couple of goals.
Will – Not the loudest we’ve been there but honestly I have so much respect for anyone who made the trip that it didn’t bother me. The lads around the drummer did their bits but it would be good if they occasionally followed what others started singing rather than almost always doing their own thing. It rankles a bit when attempts to get “When I Was Young And Lazy” or “Clear Blue Skies” going get drowned out by “der der der der”. But that’s probably just because I’m halfway through my 30s now and am starting to feel like a crotchety old bloke. “Fuck the Tories” got a couple of nice loud airings which was heartening. I was pleased the vast majority stayed around after the final whistle to clap the lads off even though we were all disappointed to be going to a replay. Definitely felt like we had more than 300 odd there though.
Ed – Gave as good as we got!
🔴 Them
Alex – I said that the roof didn’t allow for that much noise to carry but their noise certainly did. Flags, pyros (which are good on the eye but stupid to throw, which I saw them do a few times) and a brilliant atmosphere in general. The only time silence fell upon them was when County went 2-1 up. One of the only grounds I’ve been to where the noisy element of the home crowd and the away fans are directly under one roof. I must begrudgingly admit they did drown County out a few times to their credit. I really was impressed by it.
Will – They made a decent racket as usual but they sing such dreadful songs. I can’t stand that “We Follow” song that Palace and a few others sing. They did sing “Stuck in the Middle with Stokes” after their second goal which was a nice change of pace but they reverted to the ‘ultra’ dirge straight after. I couldn’t help but laugh at “We Pay Your Benefits” being sung by supporters of a club that represents a town where a signifiant portion of its economic activity is as a result of an army barracks - a publicly funded entity. I guess they took “Fuck the Tories" personally.
Ed – Noisy and obnoxious.
🍻 Post-match
Alex – I stayed and applauded the players off. Once they’d walked off we set about getting back to the car and then heading back to Walton-on-Thames, which this time took around 50 minutes. Getting out of Aldershot was easy enough which reduced the journey time but once more the A3 was a bit of a pain. Once back we caught the last 40 minutes of City v Tottenham in a local pub – the prices of which I can only describe as quite far above the average.
Will – Said my goodbyes, paid a trip to the aforementioned portaloos and made my way to the station. I had discovered via a quick check of the National Rail app during the game that there was major disruption on the lines going east out of Aldershot, so wanted to be there to work out my best route home.
Ed – Walked back to the car surrounded by Aldershot fans, praying I didn't get battered or (worse) rained on.
🛬 Inbound
Alex – I had a bit of spare time when I got back to London, so I felt an urge to visit nearby Buckingham Palace for a picture with my County scarf held high above my head. Heading back to the bus station, my 8.30pm bus home was delayed by ten minutes. I got back to the East Midlands at 11.40pm, after quite an uncomfortable journey home. The bus was packed out and it was quite difficult to sleep unlike the leg southwards I’d done in the morning.
Will – Considering my quickest route back was blocked it actually wasn’t too bad. I had to get a different train out of Aldershot to Guildford rather than Woking, but conveniently on Sundays the Woking to Waterloo train actually starts at Guildford, so it didn’t add a change. Everything was running late but I was probably only about 50 minutes later getting back than I should have been. I undoubtedly had it easier than most County fans. I was back in Walton-on-Thames by 6.30pm. The disruption was caused by a severely damaged pedestrian footbridge over the railway between Woking and Brookwood. Having seen the photos I’m slightly alarmed that my train there had gone under it! I think SWR made the right call in stopping trains going under looking at the pictures.
Ed – Dark.
➡️ After
Alex – Arrived home at about 12.10am, drank a glass of water and went straight to bed – just the 19 hours after waking up.
Will – Stopped off at a pub by the station, which used to be my regular many moons ago, to catch up with some people I haven’t seen for a while. I had intended on staying for just one, maybe two...
Ed – Complained to the missus about southern snobs like her (we're still talking).
🛏 Bed
Alex – Around 12.15am.
Will – Nearly 1am… and I haven’t looked at my bank statement from Sunday night yet!
Ed – 10.30pm.
💷 Cost
Alex – Travel (coach and train around London) £29. Lunch £11. Ticket £16. Pint of Orchard Thieves cider in Surrey £6.60. Total £62.60.
Will – Train £8. Ticket £20 (though I paid for delivery like a mug so it was more like £27.50). A couple of rounds in The Crimea £22 (someone else paid for my chips in the ground). Total £57.50.
Ed – Petrol £5. Parking £3. Ticket £20 (should have been £27.50 with postage but fuck that: I got a friend to pick it up from EP and post it to me because I’m a tight-arse). Chips £4 – would have had a pint as well, what kind of football ground doesn’t serve beer? Total £32.
🏅 Rating
Alex – Overall I’d go with a 7/10.
Will – Aldershot isn’t my favourite away day but it’s far from my least. It was on course for a 7/10 but loses a point purely because of the train situation after the game. So 6/10. (Probably would have been back up to 7/10 if we’d won.)
Ed – 6/10.
So there you have it folks, three tales from Aldershot away, and it’s a victory for… THE BUS!
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